Wooly Bully

[Jim Pemberton]

If you're over 60, you now have an earworm that you might have difficulty removing. (I understand chewing gum helps....I'm not sure why)

My apologies

To my point:

How many are noticing that they are cleaning more wool carpet? I brought this up a few months ago, and since that time, I'm receiving more calls, texts, and DMs about it.

I don't see it becoming the staple (no pun intended) for wall to wall cleaning in the US as it tends to me in the UK and Oceania, but it is showing up more and more in homes and businesses nationwide.

In the past 20 years or so our industry has migrated upward to prespray products between 11 and 12, and even VLM products in that pH range. The use of those types of products are, to say the least, not safe for this fiber. I think we'd all agree that a pH of that high is not nearly safe for wool, even if you attempt to neutralize it with an acidic rinse after you apply it.

What are you seeing, and if you feel up to confession, what are you doing when you clean wool?

 

[they live]

A blast from the past. Hope you don't mind Jim.

Cleaning wool carpets

Just had my first job cleaning wool carpets . Used a fine fabric upholstery pre spray and Prochem's All Fiber Deep Clean as a rinse. The carpet was a light tan shag very lightly soiled but there were urine spots that only showed up when I used my black light. No odor. I reduced the pressure to...

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[Jim Pemberton]

A blast from the past. Hope you don't mind Jim.

Cleaning wool carpets

Just had my first job cleaning wool carpets . Used a fine fabric upholstery pre spray and Prochem's All Fiber Deep Clean as a rinse. The carpet was a light tan shag very lightly soiled but there were urine spots that only showed up when I used my black light. No odor. I reduced the pressure to...

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Not at all!

Thank you Steve.

Let's now see what our current participants might be doing.

If you'd asked me in 2011 if wall to wall wool would be the "thing" it is becoming today, I'd have laughed.

 

[icleancarpetz]

If you're over 60, you now have an earworm that you might have difficulty removing. (I understand chewing gum helps....I'm not sure why)

My apologies

To my point:

How many are noticing that they are cleaning more wool carpet? I brought this up a few months ago, and since that time, I'm receiving more calls, texts, and DMs about it.

I don't see it becoming the staple (no pun intended) for wall to wall cleaning in the US as it tends to me in the UK and Oceania, but it is showing up more and more in homes and businesses nationwide.

In the past 20 years or so our industry has migrated upward to prespray products between 11 and 12, and even VLM products in that pH range. The use of those types of products are, to say the least, not safe for this fiber. I think we'd all agree that a pH of that high is not nearly safe for wool, even if you attempt to neutralize it with an acidic rinse after you apply it.

What are you seeing, and if you feel up to confession, what are you doing when you clean wool?

Im seeing more and more homes yanking out carpet in favor of pre engineered flooring. Those that cant afford new floors, are dying to yank out the carpets but are tired and stuck to cleaning the carpet.

 

[they live]

Im seeing more and more homes yanking out carpet in favor of pre engineered flooring. Those that cant afford new floors, are dying to yank out the carpets but are tired and stuck to cleaning the carpet.

Wait until the realize how much more work hard surfaces are.
I would rather run a vacuum than sweep and mop.

Not to mention the dust issue without carpet and those softer surfaces getting scratched up and ugliing out in a year.

I had some apartment complexes make the switch then switch back in a short time due to replacement costs and tenant complaints like how cold they are in the winter.

 

[hogjowl]

We keep Procyon on our vans for wool rugs. We never see wall to wall.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Wait until the realize how much more work hard surfaces are.
I would rather run a vacuum than sweep and mop.

Not to mention the dust issue without carpet and those softer surfaces getting scratched up and ugliing out in a year.

I had some apartment complexes make the switch then switch back in a short time due to replacement costs and tenant complaints like how cold they are in the winter.

The amount of LVP/LVT complaints that inspectors are seeing are such that I'm not surprised that they are moving back to wall to wall.

Sadly, they won't be happy with the long term performance of polyester either

 

[Jim Pemberton]

We keep Procyon on our vans for wool rugs. We never see wall to wall.

It is growing in the Northeast, California, and the "Yankeefied" parts of the South, like Atlanta and the Research Triangle in North Carolina.

I'm not thinking you'll being seeing it down where you reside for a bit yet.

 

[they live]

The amount of LVP/LVT complaints that inspectors are seeing are such that I'm not surprised that they are moving back to wall to wall.

Sadly, they won't be happy with the long term performance of polyester either

No but its cheaper to have me clean polyester than replace after every tenant.
I don't clean many apartments anymore though. I had about ten at one time if not more. Then I started raising prices beyond what they would pay.

I only see a little wool here like Marty other than rugs. The newer high end homes are mostly hard surfaces.

We have a high number of elderly here who all need to shuffle their feet on a smooth surface. No rugs neither.
What I see here and we did it too is pulling carpet and refinishing the wood floors. One kid who worked for me is doing it full time now for a company but is trying to go on his own.

 

[Islandguy]

Im seeing more and more homes yanking out carpet in favor of pre engineered flooring. Those that cant afford new floors, are dying to yank out the carpets but are tired and stuck to cleaning the carpet.

90% of flooring going into residential is hard surface here. Carpet in apartment building hallways is about all that is left .

 

[hogjowl]

I have a church account with a large children’s nursery and kindergarten in it. It was totally carpeted. They paid a church consultant to come in and redecorate it. Took all the carpet out and put in LVT. This church has rich, spoiled, unrealistic staff members who waste money like it’s free. Within a year they were complaining about all the scratches on it and told their independent janitorial crew to start waxing it. So they’re paying more for maintaining that floor than when they had carpet. Not to mention the dust and noise issues.

 

[hogjowl]

I’m seeing carpet only in BRs and Upstairs Bonus rooms here. Mostly polyester. My church account I mentioned above had a new Sanctuary built around 30 years ago. The first carpet was nylon and lasted 14 years. When they replaced it, I voiced my opinion that only solution dyed nylon should be picked. They listened and that carpet is 14 years old today. They’re starting to discuss replacing it and I’ll have to insert myself, precariously, in the decision process again. The number of people, mainly women, who feel they should be the decision makers there is ridiculous.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I’m seeing carpet only in BRs and Upstairs Bonus rooms here. Mostly polyester. My church account I mentioned above had a new Sanctuary built around 30 years ago. The first carpet was nylon and lasted 14 years. When they replaced it, I voiced my opinion that only solution dyed nylon should be picked. They listened and that carpet is 14 years old today. They’re starting to discuss replacing it and I’ll have to insert myself, precariously, in the decision process again. The number of people, mainly women, who feel they should be the decision makers there is ridiculous.

If you can just get them to understand that they can special order nylon (the salesmen at the stores don't like it, so they will discourage it) they might be able to get it.

Friends don't let friends buy polyester

 

[scotty747]

I bid a cat pee stink job yesterday at a new apt complex with 500 units. All LVP. No carpet at all . Except the managers office and gym.

 

[jessi]

Seeing wall to wall wool in newer “custom homes” I clean. I use Bridgepoint wool product, been lucky to only walk into minor organic staining, I use 3% peroxide

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Seeing wall to wall wool in newer “custom homes” I clean. I use Bridgepoint wool product, been lucky to only walk into minor organic staining, I use 3% peroxide

If you don't mind sharing what part of Idaho, or if you can, the city, it will help with the research that I'm doing.

The next time you have a wool carpet in such a home, can you post a picture of the place and an inside shot of the carpet?

I won't use it for advertising, or for any other purpose, but it would help.

Thanks!

 

[jessi]

If you don't mind sharing what part of Idaho, or if you can, the city, it will help with the research that I'm doing.

The next time you have a wool carpet in such a home, can you post a picture of the place and an inside shot of the carpet?

I won't use it for advertising, or for any other purpose, but it would help.

Thanks!

I’m in Boise and service the Treasure Valley area.

And will do Jim np

 

[they live]

We keep Procyon on our vans for wool rugs. We never see wall to wall.

Liquid or powder?

 

[they live]

Ive been reading dry slurry is safe for wool.
Any thoughts?

 

[icleancarpetz]

The amount of LVP/LVT complaints that inspectors are seeing are such that I'm not surprised that they are moving back to wall to wall.

Sadly, they won't be happy with the long term performance of polyester either

where can I read about these complaints?

 

[hogjowl]

Liquid or powder?

Liquid
My experience with the powder is that it leaves a death valley salt pack around fittings and spray tips

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

Liquid
My experience with the powder is that it leaves a death valley salt pack around fittings and spray tips

Procyon Extreme works very well for wool carpeting. (Liquid), but the price is RIDICULOUS!!!!!!

I also found that the ‘Silver Solution’ product does very well for it aswell. (Just LST cleaner rebranded). If memory serves correctly, I think it’s a ChemMax product…

 

[hogjowl]

You can’t be cheap AND be a 1percenter

 

[they live]

You can’t be cheap AND be a 1percenter

Lol you guys and your 1%rs.

How long has that gallon been on the van?

A 1%er would qualify the job and have the product stored in a climate controlled room until it was needed.

None of us are 1%ers.

Im not a pretender. I just do the best job I can at that time.

 

[hogjowl]

You sure can come up with some idiotic concerns.

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

You can’t be cheap AND be a 1percenter

Because of the tariffs, it’s now 90$ a jug.
I’m not being cheap, I’m just not stupid.

 

[hogjowl]

My last Procyon order was March 3rd

 

[they live]

You sure can come up with some idiotic concerns.

You live in Alabama.

 

[hogjowl]

I just realized Sierra Clean must be Canadian
He deserves those tariffs

 

[Dwain Ray]

Ive been reading dry slurry is safe for wool.
Any thoughts?

I use first step as my primary prespray and hd100 as an emulsifier for virtually all carpets including fine wool . After cleaning i do rinse all carpets with prochem all fiber rinse. It cleans very well and is pretty idiot proof with employees i never had to worry that they used the wrong product on wool. About the only other prespray i use is firestorm for greasey restaurants and my shop and funky rentals occasionally ill boost eighter one with 2cups of peroxide per 5qt hf sprayer and the other 2 cups in the bottle goes into the emulsifier jug. I go thru about 150lbs of hd100, 50lbs of first step and 30lbs of firestorm (6 jars) per year. Added perk when i order from steam pros solutions is that when i order 2-50lb boxes of any of there products i get a 25lb box for free to offset some of the shipping costs