My butler is a 2010 all original equipment except driveshaft that I wonder if it really needed replacing but am happy that my belts last years now.
It sounds like that butler wasnt taken care.
Get on hagopians list if you want a good used butler. I almost bought another one last year but my bank woukdnt lend me the full amount on an auto loan. They wanted to split it into 2 loans but I didnt want that. I had teeth to buy.
Idk, I can see both sides. Frankenstein has had the engine & transmission replaced and he gets exceptionally good treatment. While setting at idle inside my shop without any warning spun a cam bearing while idling!, not screaming down the road @10,000rpms! Idling. Fortunately for me the new engine was covered under the factory powertrain warranty. 8 months later again without warning while driving down he lost 3,4,5 gear clutch pack un Fortunately that wasn't under warranty and cost me 7000.00 thats just the way vehicle's are built these days. It doesn't seen to matter how well you care for um if the factory produces a pos. Frankenstein is a 2020 with only 58k the oil gets changed between 3-4k(when ever the computer says) transmission fluid was changed twice(now three times)rearend changed once brake fluid changed twice powersteering fluid changed once. I drive it as if i have to depend on it for the next 20 years. So to dismiss this by saying that it wasn't cared for well that may or may not be the case. Lack of care or maintenance may not have been the problem, that doesn't seem to matter anymore. There was a time it did. Supposedly when you get a rebuilt they are better than new because the factory defects/ weaknesses are corrected the transmission shop(didnt do the rebuild rather installed a rebuilt)pointed out the clutch problem fix and potential torque converter problem and automatic upgrade included in price. So we'll see. When I bought my van it was 1½years old with 22k on it. Its a 2020 chevy express 2500 extended with 6.0L first sold new in 9/19 i bought it in 12/21 with 22k engine was replaced 8/24(5 weeks left on 5year 60k powertrain warranty) transmission replaced 3/25 approximately 53k
Bryce needs a dependable unit. He already has a project he over paid for.
He could be making payments on something he doesnt have to work on or stress about with all the money he has spent keeping it on the road.
He might as well just focus on what he already has. A van that age that has had the motor Trans and pump replaced tells me it wasnt maintained properly and will have a lot more problems coming. Probably why they are trying to unload it. Its just not worth that much money imo.
I think the hagopien van in the classified ads here would be a better buy but I think he could find a good reliable machine and van for a lot less than both of them if he takes his time and does his due diligence.
